Welcome to The Messy Table—an ordinary space for real women, imperfect stories, and the God who’s at work in our mess. Today, for Episode 25, Amy Groeschel and I are chatting with the absolutely charming Sandra Stanley—who is simply a breath of fresh air.

Sandra is the mom of three grown children, wife to Andy Stanley—founder of North Point Ministries, a foster mama + advocate for kids from hard places, and an author of two devotional books: Comparison Trap and Breathing Room (see GIVEAWAY details below). She is super down-to-earth and has the most soothing southern accent. Trust me, I could’ve chatted with her for DAYS.

“The shortcut to contentment is a heart of gratitude.” —Sandra Stanley

This conversation is packed with all of the topics mentioned above, as well as how to navigate various seasons of life/marriage/motherhood and the learned wisdom that comes with facing challenges. We also highlight two really important issues, especially among women, like (1) the never-ending trap of comparison, and (2) the temptation to constantly overextend ourselves—leaving little to zero breathing room.

I didn’t realize how much I needed this conversation until it happened! You’ll love it too, I promise. So grab your coffee, pull up a chair, and join us at The Messy Table.


GIVEAWAY! Simply share this episode on social media or tag three friends (six for double entry, nine for triple entry—you get the picture) to enter to win a copy of one of Sandra’s books: Comparison Trap or Breathing Room. Winners will be announced on Saturday, February 24th!

BOOKS: Delighting in the Trinity | The Pursuit of God | Everything Happens For a Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved | The New Rules for Love, Sex, and Dating

BIBLE PLANS: The Messy Table: A 7-Day Bible Plan for Women | Comparison Trap | Breathing Room

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Life.Church | Life.Church Sisters | North Point Ministries

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